Hello and good day to you from episode 18 of our podcast series Project Breakaway. A metaphorical and literal time in the day when we here at Predator cycling take some time away from working in the back shop to come and share with our listeners what we're doing, how we're doing it, what it takes to do it, our ideas, our innovative success stories and even our missteps and failures. If you find yourself with an interest in bicycles, composite manufacturing, out of the box design or even curiosities beyond, I encourage you to stick with us, settle in and learn a little. I'm Courtney B, co-owner and project manager of Predator cycling. I'm here with my partner Arm Goan, the other co-owner, CEO, lead design and engineer and virtual conference guru of Predator cycling. How's it going, Arm? Uh, it's going pretty good. Virtual conference guru. Try and say that one. That's difficult. I'm not going to try, but I'll take I'll take I'll take the title. So, welcome back. It's not Monday, it's Tuesday. We were busy yesterday. We were busy. Um, feels like we've been gone a while. I don't know. Uh, maybe because we actually did some outdoorsy things this past weekend. Oh yeah. We're actually social. Uh, kind of social. Yeah, as much social as COVID allows us to be, but we got the little guy on his new push bike. He's gliding now. He's doing really well. Yeah. It's fun. I have to say, it's it's probably one of the coolest things to see is like something that we built and our our little boy's riding it and he uh, he really likes it and he won't let anybody touch it and he's like, my bike. I love it. I love it. Yeah. So we do outside. We did that and then you also, of course, just, you know, worked on the weekend. You're doing a lot of back end work on the website, migrating customer data, updating software, we're becoming a little bit more organized here. Yeah, we're trying to get all of our now that we're kind of we've gotten all of our manufacturing systems set up. We're just trying to focus more on the front end of things. So, um, the back end of the front end of the business. Right. We're always trying to make people think we're a 100 person company and not a two-person company. Yeah, well, just trying to be able to have have easy access to customer data so that we can answer questions quickly and get back to people and all of your order data is put together and just trying to be efficient. So, save us time and spend more time designing products and and cranking stuff out. So. Cool. So, uh, last week, uh, your GTC virtual conference uh, aired online. Yeah. You did a a pre-recorded 40, 45 minute uh, discussion on uh, how Nvidia's GPU uh, acceleration uh, assists you in your design and development of new products. Yep. You uh, kind of discussed our previous workflows for utilizing 3D printing as tooling way back when. And then kind of focused on the limitations because of just our simple computer power and software access we had at the time. Yeah, and also just talking about the the way we designed then and I mean people still do. The the basic principles of the design process. Um, and how it. Anyways, yeah. Right. Yeah, it was kind of our timeline. And then you compared that workflow to now. Yep. Um, so as we have mentioned quite a bit here on the last few episodes, we do have a supercomputer now. Yep. Uh, the Lenovo P620 and it's paired with the GPU power of the Nvidia RTX A6000. Yep. So, you kind of made a timeline in that discussion of how we use 3D printing in the past all the way to now. Yep. Like yesterday. Yep. Yeah, and today. Yeah. So, um, just a quick review of the your um, course that you had. Um, it was basically uh, how you designed around the limitations of the computer and the GPU. Yep. And then you mentioned how we evolved and began relying on the computer and the software to basically do the design work for you. Great. Which was basically like AI. So like you're, hey computer. Here's my requirements. Make me a part. Yeah, and one of the things that's interesting I think is because I mean, we're a little different of a company than most when it comes to product. Um, we're designing a product for a very specific thing in mind. I mean, like we're like for instance, our water bottle cages. Let's use that as an example. Uh, we have a target for the weight, we have a target for all of our material properties and specs. Like we know exactly what we want this thing to do and how we want it to perform. Um, and we're fortunate enough to understand the physics along with it. So we know our load restraints. We actually have the ability to do some of our own testing to figure all that out. And we can put that into the computer, so when we talk about like AI driven design or, you know, generative design, um, and the first forms of it that we used, you know, we thought we could just plug in all the data and just let the computer come up with the optimal structure. Right. Um, and you know, which which is really cool and and you can do that. Um, but there is limitations to what that can do. Um, and you know, it still becomes a very like, you know, binary approach where it's like you're put in. think something in and you get a result back and then you're just putting in and changing things and it's not dynamic and it's not collaborative. So, um those are kind of the limitations of it, but yeah, that was our first approach to it. Right. Um and also back then we didn't have the local compute power. We were relying on cloud compute. Right. Well, that's kind of like if you go way way back when we were talking about how we just used the software to um we had the limitations of the software. Yep. Um before the bottle cages. When we were doing 3D print and it was kind of just like, hey, we're making, you know, a metal mold and wouldn't it be cool if we had a 3D print insert to find us help us mold this shape in a way that we couldn't cut the metal for. So that was our use cases back way when. Yep. Absolutely. So we were designing basically Yeah, for tiny little pieces and parts. And we hadn't thought forward and going, oh wow, let's just 3D print an actual product. Yeah, I mean, well, plus the limitations of the computer and the software we had at the time. And the hardware of the printers and accessibility. But like also like, I mean, um, you know, at that time, and that's one of the things that I talk about in the course was or in the in the talk was that, you know, we originally when we got a printer, I mean, I thought we could print consumer end parts right off the gun. I that's what I was excited about. With our like small like FFF or FFF printer. Yeah. We couldn't. Like the one you get and like the first thing they ask you to print is like a tiny little like boat. Yeah, a little boat. And you're like, I'm going to make all of our products. Yeah, but you know, obviously that wasn't going to work. Um, No, but trial and error, I guess. Oh, for sure, you learned a ton. But like I think the interesting thing was at that point we were adding it on and like exactly what you were talking about. We added it on to our capacity. So like, oh, here's we're basically not changing our workflow, we're not changing anything. We're just adding capacity. I think we really shot for the stars though with what the shapes we were trying to add to the molds. Yeah. We did, I mean, no, no question, we pushed it as far as we could push it. But the the the thing that kind of hit our limitation was our workflow, like the actual way we were using it and what we wanted to try and leverage out of it. Yeah. We we did not have our. Plus just the cost because I remember us trying to back. When we were doing um not the bars we have, but we were doing, you know, trying to do iterations of the bars and like make them better and mold them better and basically you'd print a part and we'd be like, oh, that's awesome, that shape is awesome, it's going to work, but the only way to get it out was basically to break it. So it wasn't cost effective to just print the part and have to break it every time. Oh no, there was a lot of, yeah. There was a lot of limitations that we hit. But my my my uh I think my my what I'm trying to get to is is that the the limiting factor even then, we didn't know it at the time, but our limiting factor was our approach to our workflow was what held us back from being able to leverage even the printers we had then. And I mean, also, I mean, the the availability of the tech wasn't even it didn't exist yet. Um and we did not have the local compute power to even push some of the stuff we're doing now. Well, I don't think we would be where we've been in the last couple of months without the, you know, Lenovo and Nvidia. Oh no, no, no. I mean, ever since last year when we started working um more uh we started working a year ago with Ansys, that just kind of opened up the door for us. Right. Um because anyways, yeah. And it's always I know because it's I mean, yes, we have the software and we have the hardware now, but we've always had you. And so it's just always had both of us. Well, yes, but like when it comes to the design and actually comes to sitting down at a computer and like I don't do that. Right. I can come over and tell you what looks good and what doesn't look good. But you're sitting there. But we've always had you and we've just never had your support. And now that we have your support, it's like like I don't know. We can actually get things and get things done like quickly, which I love. I'm like, oh great, a new piece, new part. Great, awesome. Let's get it. Absolutely. And yes. Yeah. 100%. 100%. And the the also on top of that, I mean, this is slightly off of the GTC talk, but like the the fact of having simulation and being able to simulate products. I mean, I can come up with idea. I mean, I get Courtney jokes about it. But I get ideas all the time. Oh, we should do this or we should do that. But like now. Those are jokes. Those are just me coping with with them. Oh my God, he just got to be a support group for this. Um, but like my point is is that um I I can now come up with these ideas and within seconds of coming up with the idea, I can model it and I can simulate it to see if it's going to work or not work. And then I can try and pitch this to Courtney and I'm like, all right, I got this. Like, check out the results. And I I'm a like I'm a visual person, so you need to show me what you're trying to make so I can justify it before you're like, hey, okay, every morning. Literally every morning. Hey, I have an idea. So I'm like, uh-huh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I listen and, you know, me describing it to me is not going to do anything. But if you can pop on your computer and be like, hey, come over here and look at this and then like, oh, I got to get up. Okay, here I come. Well, yes. That is all true. That is all true. And that is morning to morning. But like The thing too is with Ansis, I can show you actually. Okay, look, here's the loads and it's great because like Courtney does not is not a um a mechanical engineer by trade. Shut your mouth. But um, I mean, your understanding of of um your intuition on parts and where they're going to break and what's going to happen and understanding of it's really good. But I also like the so usually you would come up with an idea and be like, hey, I drew this on the piece of paper and my question is always, well, is it going to work? Right. Because I don't want to entertain the idea any further if it's like not going to be a viable option. Right, absolutely. But now when you're like, oh, well, the computer said it's going to work. Right. They ran a test and I'm like, okay, well then let's go down the path of actually making it and trying it. Yeah. Well, no, and I mean, to be honest, I mean, this is this is again, this is kind of going off off of our uh our GTC talks, but I I the thing for me is I have an internal problem of of self. Which one? I have many internal problems, but one of my problems is is is um I am it's a predator here. I am the person that does all the design and engineering work. So, um I I don't have. I mean, Courtney's a great sounding board to go back and forth on stuff, but I I don't have another counterpart here that does engineering simulation stuff with me. No, I don't have the brain power for that. Well, you you do, but that's not the point. But the the thing is is that for me now, I actually think of my software and hardware as my companion on this journey. Where are those little robot companions? Well, I'm working on those. Like that. I haven't pitched those yet. What was the movie? What was the movie in the eighties? Uh, uh. I don't know. The one we the one where uh they were trying to make it. You sent the parts in, everyone's trying to make it collaboratively with Saunders. Oh, the robot Johnny, Johnny Five. Johnny Five. We need one. Yeah, well, we made the arm thing for it, the shoulder. No, but like we need a real one here in the shop so you can have a sounding board. I haven't I haven't pitched that yet. I have I I'm. We're getting there. Okay. We're getting there. I have an idea. For. Anyways, but um, yes, no, that's it. It's I but it's it's helpful for me because I'll come up with an idea and I'm like, dude, this should work and I'm like, why doesn't it work? And I always I doubt myself. Um and now that I have um this simulation locally, I can actually just throw this in the computer and be like, okay, no, this works. Like, okay, I'm on the right track. Right, just it's it's this validation for myself so like I can um and also like it. And you know, Ansys and Lenovo and Nvidia, they probably don't even realize that they made you a friend. They did. They made me a friend. I haven't named them yet, but I will. They will have a name. Um, yes. They have. I it's a friend, it's my it's my companion in day-to-day operations. It really is. It is. Um, but no. It's helped me a lot and it also helps you um get rid of your design bias. And it I I think if you anyone that's followed what we've been doing in the last year has absolutely seen a different trend in our products. In our design, in our everything, I think is going a different direction. And that's all entirely because we have that ability now. And it's a good thing because you can't just, you know. It's it's an evolution. You one trick pony. We have muscle things now. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um and it's it's understand and and getting rid of. For me, it's an obsession about this workflow is an obsession for me. But also uh design bias. I I I think you just you have a way of thinking of something and you think you know how to solve that problem. But you're typically wrong. Like there's another way to do it. And someone else is going to think of it. And so working, if you can collaboratively work with simulation and data and design and be intelligent about your workflow. So it's parametrically driven, you can then actually collaborate with your systems and help find those solutions. A billion times faster. So that kind of, I mean, we kind of got off but not really because that brings us back to the um the powerful computer and software we have and now you have the streamlined harmony of AI and function and achievable output. And that's highlighted by their release of our first of our first 3D printed direct to consumer AI assisted water bottle cage, the genius. Yes. Yes, I yes, yes. All fronts. Um, it's super cool. I'm. It's exciting. So the course. So the course aired last week and then uh it was pre-recorded, but then you had a live uh question and answer session after. One question that came from uh Aerospace uh engineer was about safety checks and validations within the software. So. Yeah, so. Well, what's that about? Okay, so in in aerospace, you have to get everything. Uh there has to be the part after it's printed. It has to get validated. It's aerospace, not making a water bottle cage. But it was nice of him to ask. Yes. Um, so things to think about. So like there's a thing um for those of you that are not simulation people. There's a thing that we call about like safety factor. Um and most consumer products have a safety factor of like three, four, five. Basically meaning whatever you set your load capacity, it can achieve in a stress load. It can achieve basically three times that. Five times that. Um and so you basically have to add materials in order to pass that safety. Um, we do that in consumer products quite often. It's it's very typical to do that because it's just makes the product safer. Um, in aerospace, you don't have that luxury. Um, you typically are striving for a safety factor of one. Because um, the weight matters so much that in order to the weight and to meet the structural requirements, you have to have you basically have to do that. And then they have to validate that the part that was made was made the way it was supposed to be made. Right. So like after you printed the part, you have to basically put it in like a CMM machine, which is basically like a really fancy um, probe. That basically probes the part to make sure it's validated exactly the same. It is exactly what you designed on the computer. And that becomes into a whole another problem because then you have like organic shapes are really hard to measure. So you have to use like 3D scanners and lasers to figure out if the dimensions are correct. It adds a lot of cost. So he was asking about that validation approach. So we do validate our parts. The way we validate our part is by mass. So we do like a weight test to make sure that we have the right weight. And then we also have a little um systems where we measure known tolerances that we know get off or can, which direction it's going to go off. We measure those and and mark it. Um, So you do the science validation. I I actually just throw the parts on the floor. Throw the parts on the floor. Sometimes uh my best uh test for validation is I give it to a two-year-old. And if it's indestructible, it's great. It's a great product. Yeah, that's that's a good test. Um, but yeah, so that was a question about validation. So it's a little different approaches. And but it was interesting. I mean, that was actually the first question we got. Yeah, you also had another uh question from a research scientist asking asking about leveraging the system you talked about um for composite, specifically carbon fiber because you were talking about 3D print material. Yes. So you can okay, so like this is where we get into like a little bit of a wormhole of of topics. But um, so inside of Ansis Discovery, you can put material properties as composites. Um, but it treats it, well, I have. I'm not 100% sure of how it treats it. But it should treat it as an isotropic material. It's not going to give it a directional property value. I don't quote me on that, but I'm I'm assuming based on how I know everything works. I I'm pretty sure that's exactly how it works. So for like a a chopped fiber compression molded part, it could work. Um, the problem you're going to have in is you can't within discovery, you can't put limit. I mean, you can put some limitations, but some of your molding restrictions. It gets really complicated on how to do it. Is it just because people haven't tested this yet because the carbon fiber has been around for so long, I feel like they should have they should be tested. So. Okay. So like, okay, so the way we use the topology optimization, it would not realistically work for composites. Because of some we don't put restrictions on it because we're designing for 3D print. Now, inside of um um Ansis mechanical and workbench, you can put variables into layup schedules. And so that's where you can optimize your geometries and topology systems. Which is what we do for the RF 20. So you can design your structure and then design um your schedules of lays and then you can figure out the optimal ratios of ply and ply angles and use um their engines to figure out the best system. Um, So you can, there are ways of using composites. It gets more complicated. So. In my little brain. So basically if you use like a material like a 3D print, like it's only printing in essentially one direction, so you know the forces and loads. But like if you lay up carbon, anyone can lay up any direction or way or however. So it's always different. So it's never going to be like exactly how this simulation tells you it's going to be. Use of uh user error. Well, not error, user choice. Uh yes, so. Yes, on a lot of what you're saying. So the main thing is is that in order to figure out the simulation of the composites, you have to tell the system what direction the fiber is laying. Right. And which way it should be laid and how it's being laid. So which we do for the RF 20. But we give it a structure to build it off of. Right. We can't tell it to build it from scratch and then also figure out your layup schedule. I mean, yes, you can. There are ways of doing this. Um, and we've been playing with some of them. But um, it it's not into a workflow like we do with 3D print. Because 3D print, especially in in resin cured systems or 3D printed like metal parts. It's an isotropic material properties. Which meaning that in all directions, the material performs uh similar to the same response in all directions. Carbon fiber is not like that. Unless you're using a chopped fiber or using some sort of reinforcement system. So. Um, it's interesting, it's a it's definitely something we're experimenting with. Um, to get better at it. But. And that stuff like moves inside of a mold. I mean, once you, you know. Yeah, it's just. Well, it absolutely depends. You put it in the cavity, you close it and then you either introduce. you know, whatever you're Yeah, your pressure, pressure, whatever. And that stuff, I mean, it moves. Oh yeah, for sure. And it also depends a lot. I mean, there's a lot of variables. There's a lot of variables. Composites adds a whole another layer of variables that make it far more complicated to do. Okay. So, that's why it's not. It's a good question. It's a good question. It's it's a larger conversation. So, another question that you got was about uh best practices, but your head was going to explode when I asked you for an answer. Um, so that's best for a one-on-one call with arm. So, um, Yeah, that was geared towards workflow. If anyone has a, you know, a general open-ended question like that and you have uh two hours to, you know, 48 hours uh to kill, you can email him. Don't call, don't tie up my lines, but you can email him. Uh, okay, let's move on. I also wanted to talk about the pending release of our custom and stock size bike fitting cleat adjusters. Yes. So, after this podcast, we should be making the cleat adjuster webpage live on our website. It's our new product. This is the second product in our 3D printed optimized products. How many times can I say products that are going to market? Yeah. Um, so we do a lot of bike fitting. You've done a lot, not me, I don't do bike fitting. You've done a lot of bike fitting in the past and you do it here locally. And cleat adjusters are just a vital piece of creating the correct angle and height for a foot. Mhm. Um, that basically needs adjustment from the cleat to the pedal. Yep. So, every rider's different and they have a different pedal stroke and heel angle, etc. Um, and these adjusters they've been around for a while from other vendors, but um they seem to be getting harder to find, especially during this manufacturing lull and COVID times. Yep. Um, and cycling as a sport has just exploded during COVID times. Yep. Um, so uh, there are we've seen other companies overseas doing 3D print uh type of these adjuster components. Yeah, options. But it doesn't seem like here in the US there's too many options. Right. So, we're going to be offering these two products. One is a fully customized version and the other is a stock size. Discuss. Um, yeah, so We've been so, so when you do a when you do bike fitting, you quickly realize that everyone needs uh slightly different um um angles, if they have leg length discrepancies, um and different combo, I mean, just everyone needs something a little bit different. Um, so something that we had been, you know, toying with. I was just thinking, if you're ever riding your bike and arm drives by, he's secretly judging your pedal stroke. Yes. Every time we walk, every time we drive by a cyclist, he goes, ah, man, that that foot is too close to the down tube. Or his knee is too far out. And this is why we are making these products. Uh, yes, it's it's to help with that. Um, and so we we've always had, well, so like I have a very interesting I I have a setup that always required I basically needed four different shims inside of my cleat to get my position correct on my right leg. Um, and it always bothered me because it always moved and it always got caught on the pedal and just it's kind of annoying. Because your right leg is shorter than your left leg? No, it's just has to do with this is that's a that's for another day. Do you do you walk with your feet pointed out? Uh, yes, that's part of it. Um, I'm just I'm just weird. Um, but that's what I need. And so, uh, it's always been a problem for me and even how it clips in. So like if you put too many like I I run Shimano um um pedals, so I use their SL uh cleat system and it's basically um I could only use two degrees and then I need to basically put another filler on the top so that I can actually click in and engage, so I couldn't get the right angle I always needed. Um, and I just had to live with it. So, this 3D printed um custom wedge actually fixes that. So our new cleat adapter basically can do both the angle and the leg length discrepancy or leg length adjustment um in one cleat, in one product. And it gives you a platform to click again. So like Because usually you have to stack these adjusters for height and angle. And once you stack them, They move. And they can also it becomes an issue because on on certain pedal platforms, you can you're limited on the angle because it basically uses the the base of the shoe to engage um the the pedal locking mechanism. So now we can actually print a platform that that is perfect so that it engages with the pedal, it treats it just like a normal pedal interface and it just locks right in. So you got you you get a bike fit. Your bike fit guy is like, hey, you need four degree angle. And one millimeter. One something. blah blah blah. You go on our website. Yep. And voila, we have a cute little customized uh cleat adjuster uh drop down builder thing. And you put in your angles and your height and you hit order. Yep. And then uh, well, I guess in the scenario it's you, so uh your twin is on the other side. Yep. Gets your uh dimensions, puts it in the software, uh designs the adjuster. uh hit print on the 3D printer and voila. Yep. So in this scenario, I would then uh ship you your customized uh cleat adjuster. Yep, that's exactly how it works. Um and then so we're we're launched, we're launching the first one with a three-bolt pattern system, which is designed specifically for the Shimano, um the Shimano SL uh cleat system. Um it also works with any um Delta, look Delta cleat or the Kio. Oh, not just like for Peloton. Peloton uses the Delta cleat. So it would work on a Peloton, it would work on a um a look Kio um system. I wonder what that Nordic track bike, cuz that's real popular now. I wonder what cleat system that has. Uh I don't know if it runs a three-bolt or a two-bolt. Mm. Um so we are working. Once I'm getting this one out. As soon as this one's out, we're going to make a specific one designed specifically for Kios and for the Peloton Delta and there will be I'm working on a slight version difference for the Peloton specifically. There's some issues with the Peloton cleats and cleat systems. Um so we'll make an a slight adjustment for that. Hopefully not as many issues as with their treadmill. Yeah, right. Um, but um, but yeah, so I mean that's actually so it's funny, we we kind of started talking about this custom one, um, when we first started the 3D print stuff because it seemed like a a really good viable part. Um, the custom version and we started talking to a couple bike fitters and some um, bike fit um, uh cyclists that get bike fits and their needs and immediately the first thing was, okay, that's great. I love it. I'll get them. Um, but do you are you going to offer stock versions? So that was like the first question we got immediately. Um, and we wanted to validate and make sure our materials were good and they worked for this and they actually performed incredibly well. Again, back to simulation and a lot of data helped us a lot. Plus you got on your bike and put them on and ride around. Yeah. Yeah, I I used them. Um and other people use them as well and we've been testing them for a while now. Um, but the the it's it's funny, I didn't think that people were going to be that into a stock version of it. Because a bike fitter just wants to have like 20 of each size or what? Yeah, like you have them in stock and you use them, but I mean, I didn't think that there was really a I don't know. There's there's already companies that make make them, there's a couple that you can get here in the states now. Um and I I didn't really think that we were I know that we would make a distinguished product, but I didn't think the demand was that high for it. So I wasn't going to really go down that path. Um but the demand is actually pretty we've had a it's been very heavily requested. Um so we decided to do it and we're doing it in a in a four-pot kit where it'll have a one degree and a two degree um together. So with that combination, um you could do quite a bit, you can either do one degree, um two degree or three degree um is achievable. And then um yeah, and we're going to offer it with a screw uh screw set that comes with it. That should fit most systems. If I remember to put the screws in. If you remember to put the screws in. I just get so excited when I start packaging. Um. Yeah. So So they'll be available on our website. Yeah. Yeah, they're going to be available on our website, um, uh later this week, those will be available. The custom ones will be available today. Um and we're ship the first ones we're doing are the Shimano. Uh the Shimano cleat system, which is a three-bolt system. Um but we're coming out with specific for the Kio, Delta and uh SPD. It says it on our website as well, which ones it's compatible with and what to look forward to in the future. And then we're also the stock sizes um going to work on getting those sold for on Amazon. Once I find them as logical way to do that. Yeah. We're working on that, we're we're trying really hard for a lot of our products that are like the sub $100 products to make their way onto Amazon. Uh Prime. So it'll be available. To be cost effective for both parties. Yes, yes. So it'll work for everybody and so you can get your stuff super quick. Cool. Um anything else you want to talk about? Oh yeah, check it out. It'll be under. It will be under. No, bike fit. There's a new tab. That's going on the website. It'll be new tab, predatorcycling.com, bike fitting and then under that will be the adjusters. There'll be the adjusters and everything there. And for those of you that have already found the page last week, um that have already been clicking on things. Kudos. Kudos to you for finding a hidden page. Well, other people always find hidden pages. You know, when you've been in business for so long and you have pages that are live and then you hide them and then they somehow still live on the internet. Cuz everything lives on the internet. Everything does live on the internet. And I have to definitely give there is for those of you that are interested, there are other hidden pages on our site of future products and future things that are coming out. If you want to poke around, good luck finding them. Um they do exist. Yeah. Um. Uh okay, well, things to look forward to. Uh we're going to have another exciting customer story done uh on us by Ansis here next month. Yep. It'll be. uh flying into Nashville. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually Kurt's coming who's on the podcast before. Yep. And he'll be shooting some stuff and then hopefully there will also be some more uh partnership type marketing going on with Ansis going forward. Yep. Uh we're still printing up the bottle cages and now we're going to start switching over to the wedges uh or the cleat adjusters. Um and then I also have some video marketing marketing to shoot here on my own for our website and our social media as well. Yeah. Got to get on that. So, anything else before we wrap up? No, the marketing department has to get to work. Oh, marketing department is tired. That's a good excuse. No. Okay. Okay. Well, we thank you for choosing to take some time with us and we look forward to future breakaways. Look for us on Instagram and LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter and in person here in Tennessee. We ask our listeners to please share, like and subscribe. We're available on all major streaming platforms. Thanks for listening, have a good one and find some time to break away.

Project Breakaway with Predator Cycling
18: Virtual Conf. Wrap Up & Introducing Predator Cleat Adjusters, EP. 18
This episode features a wrap-up of Arm Goan's virtual conference presentation, detailing Predator Cycling's evolution in product design. Discover how they've progressed from early 3D printing and cloud compute to leveraging powerful GPU acceleration and supercomputers for advanced, AI-driven generative design, enabling more efficient and innovative product development.
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